KMFCM
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25 Mar 2007, 19:15
you know DIR EN GREY?
yeah
that band
the one I was way way into when I was 21
and slowly got out of, partly because I wasn't too keen on their new musical direction, but also because I hate their fan base to death?
yeah, I kinda like their new album.
There are several tracks on it that I listen to, all the way through, and do not skip.
I just wanna give a shout out to whichever fanboy (I know it wasn't a girl) decided "hey, lemme send this Lamb of God CD to [insert visual kei band here]".
Even MUCC's going "metalcore" now (although, they know enough to keep releasing cheesy pop singles. . .but then, I don't think they're trying to break over here).
This is why ∀NTI FEMINISM are the best visual kei band ever in history. Kenzi takes these uncultured cross-dressing little brats, and makes them play in what is more or less a Discharge cover band.
I mean, it all depends on the fucking image anyway. It's not a damn music genre. . .they can play anything they bloody want and as long as they don't look like someone you might see in daylight it's accepted. . . .so where the fuck is the vis kei grindcore band???
(OT segue: shoutout to the people still arguing over Phobia and Ｐｈｏｂｉａ. If I met some cats who like both bands besides myself, I'm sure we'd be friends for life. Hell, Bruce probably does like both bands. We're already friends for life.)
You know it's true.
If GACKT goes and does a Hatebreed style album this summer, all those little girls will still love him (but play them Hatebreed and they'll still quake with fear :)). Hell, MIYAVI came pretty fucking close.
All you have to do is dress up like a lady or get your song added to the opening credits of an anime (Congratulations, Maximum the Hormone) and you're SWIMMING in groupies.
If Crystal Lake were fame whores, they'd get the singer a Davey Havok costume. That's all they'd have to do. Literally. They could do it as a total joke for one night, and it'd still work.
I gauran-damn-tee.
They'd have little "DiEdIeChAn37564" and her whole crew running around the Baltimore Convention Center shouting "LIGHT OF! HOPE IS! REVIVING! THIS IS! SACRED! WAR!"
(BOOM!)
by the way, I gave Withering to Death another listen.
it still blows.
PS - DEATHGAZE make a better Slipknot album than Slipknot.
The swagger jacker has surpassed the original.
Comentarios
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Gnilp Makes sense :D
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zeroism i never bothered with withering to death or that one before... what was it?? the one with obscure. but i've been curious about the new one for some reason. i guess i should listen to it fully. i actually bought a copy to sell when it starts going for a lot on ebay... since the first press or whatever has 2 cds. you should listen to lynch. if you haven't.
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KMFCM see, I liked Vulgar. .to an extent. It was basically when they started walking that nu metal line though. . .but the song where he's impersonating the Disturbed guy. . .well. . . everything else about it was pretty decent. I don't think the new album is gonna win back anyone that completely hates the new stuff. . .but it is better than Withering to Death. . .to me. . . .and Kyo isn't sounding so much like Scooby Doo anymore either. I wrote a review of it for circlewithadot.net, actually. Lynch, I've heard of and been meaning to check out actually.
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bobort07 I like both phobias, and that argument in the shoutbox is soooo fuckin funny. Gackt doing Hatebreed??? Awesome!!! lynch sounds a lot like deathgaze, and I love em both.
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Kyzumi I'm glad you liked Dir en grey. deathgaze is really wonderfull too <3 and make sure you check lynch. They are wonderfull.
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vordul I'm pretty sure every band has stupid, annoying fans, but that doesn't mean music ceases to be enjoyable. Choosing to dislike a certain genre of music because of the fanbase shows you're a pretty weak-minded person. Apparently you've never been to any concert evar, or been involved with fans of any band. ムック didn't start making poppy songs because they don't care about breaking into a new market, they started making them specifically because it helps them break into other markets. There are very few visual/angura bands who don't go this direction, Dir en grey being one of the odd bands out. While I like ∀NTIFEMINISM, I can't agree that they're the best vk band, or one of the best, etc. But I will disagree with your opinion of the band. KENZI's lineups are hardly uncultured cross-dressing little brats, since most of them, take, for instance, KISAKI, have been around the scene and paid their dues. Musicians listen to a lot of music. You'd be hard-pressed to find very many vk artists who don't list North American bands amongst their favourites, and most musicians (especially someone like KISAKI), are far from musically uncultured. ∀NTIFEMINISM is actually the reverse of what you think it is. They're more of a revolving membership supergroup than some sort of forced heterosizing Discharge cover band. In general, you don't really know what you're talking about, which makes it kind of hard to agree with you. You could have said: Find a demographic and sell yourself out to it, and you'll achieve success! which is pretty accurate. Then again, that's what all musicians do, and not all of them succeed, no matter how annoying their fanbases are.
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vordul
Also, there was some pretty heavy grindcore influence (and even a few grindcore vk acts) coming out of 名古屋系.
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vordul
And, since I can't edit posts, Phobia vs Phobia is totally not as hilarious as BOW WOW vs Bow Wow in said shoutbox. Hilariously enough, both Phobia (US) and Bow Wow (US) fans employ the same sort of pointless, ignorant insults.
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KMFCM
eh I was under the impression that most of the session musicians in Anti-Fem as of late were from newer bands. Has Kisaki been involved with them lately????
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vordul
I doubt it, but here's a little list: TAKAYUKI(THE PIASS) KISAKI(MIRAGE, SYNDROME, etc.) K助(Vasalla) YOU-YA(La'Mule) Y氏(メスメリアン) NOBU(LIGHT CIDER) SEANA(AZALEA) KIRALA(THE PIASS) Y・A・C(2nd effect) HIROMI(d.p.s) 摩稀(AZALEA) NOY(Vulga Rise) 汰楼(DAS:VASSER) SIN(ex覇叉羅) 紫苑(JE*REVIENS) 紫乃(Vice:Risk) TATSUYA(NUDE) ひずみ(Crack brain) ましろ(Crack brain) 紫乃(vice＋risk) ARATA(SKULL) 純(SKULL) YO-HEY(Delight) REO(SADIST) 翔貴(ElDorado) YURA(misery) 桂(vinett) TOMOZO(SULFURIC ACID) While this is by no means a complete list, you get the picture. While this doesn't reflect a really huge cross section of vk groups, there's quite a few big names in there. I'm not sure when KISAKI was last involved, but I think it was around 2001 (I could be wrong). Recently the musicians have mainly been from bands like √eight, Cannival Method, Brain Hacker, SONS OF NEW SCHOOL, Vinett, etc. none of which are really made of people who are new to the vk scene. Your point may have been valid if ∀NTI FEMINISM was composed of アンティック-珈琲店- members or something, but the band is pretty much people who don't fit your description at all. You're definitely under the wrong impression.
