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The Skeptics group: Truth through doubt.

A group to serve as a platform for intellectual discourse between the core members, skeptics and rationlists, and otherminded people. The forum...

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______Truth through Doubt________

Written by SpHaeR with input from fakitol

Skepticism is an attitude of doubt. Logically, we can know nothing for sure. The truth can not be known, as none of the established epistemic systems are waterproof. These ideas form ancient or classical skepticism.

The modern skeptic is more utilitarian of nature and distinguishes between epistemically likely, and epistemically unlikely concepts. Instead of dismissing everything, he is more skeptical towards those concepts that:
  • (1) ..are logically inconsistent
  • (2) ..have not been right in their predictions,
  • (3) ..that have been inconsistent with empirical data
  • (4) ..that can not be falisified.
The modern skeptic concerns himself with epistemically "justified" beliefs. They tend to use science as a boundary for justified belief. Therefore, most modern skeptics tend to treat claims of the supernatural with doubt. Some of these claims include: Gods, homeopathy, astrology, accupuncture, chiropractic, palm-reading, et cetera. These concepts fail on one of the four epistemic points above. It is important to note that these concepts can not be dismissed completely, because nothing is sure.

Popular use of the term "skeptic" has changed its meaning from the ancient one to the modern one. In fact, the modern skeptic can also be described as a rationalist. The difference is that the modern skeptic acknowledges that the rational view is just as dogmatic as, say, the religious view.

This group has been founded to unite skeptics and rationalists from the community and to provide a platform of discussion between them and otherminded people.

Members in this group concern themselves with epistemically unlikely concepts because people are sometimes the financial and mental victims of them, but also simply for the love of philosophico-theoretical discourse and the persuit of truth.

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  • c4t2007

    "Truth through doubt." vs "The truth can not be known"... I'm not sure if i should associate with such a contradiction.

    18 Feb 2014 Responder
  • Psy_b

    damn, I wish this group was more active :( [2]

    8 May 2010 Responder
  • NeedleDee

    damn, I wish this group was more active :(

    14 Mar 2010 Responder
  • NeedleDee

    wow, that is a great video joaofl. I shall be adding that to my playlist on youtube.

    22 Sep 2009 Responder
  • growling_one

    true!... true!...

    1 Sep 2009 Responder
  • joaoftl

    This is some old stuff, but worth watching imo

    30 Ago 2009 Responder
  • growling_one

    how cool is this : ? :D

    26 Ago 2009 Responder
  • 2cabs2toucan

    I think I'll stand by "only" What other ways of knowing are effective at circumventing bias? If you start a thread I’ll be sure to join in.

    24 Mar 2009 Responder
  • Waldheri

    Maybe not the only, but the best epistemological toolbox to date.

    23 Mar 2009 Responder
  • 2cabs2toucan

    wwRoss, I think it all comes down to what different people regard as good evidence. For me the scientific method is the only way to see around our inbuilt cognitive biases. When such tests are applied to paranormal claims they always come up short.

    22 Mar 2009 Responder
  • Waldheri


    15 Feb 2009 Responder
  • ElArte8723

    Skepticism is an badass doom metal band. Pouring is a fucking great track by them! I am still amazed of how many self-described sceptics are metalheads or listen to some metal.

    13 Feb 2009 Responder
  • TheGraveDigger

    Everyone in this group should listen to Skepticism (a doom metal band).

    20 Ene 2009 Responder
  • SpHaeR


    31 Dic 2008 Responder
  • the_gray_fox

    Wimme pointed me to this group. I'm not quite skeptic, but I've been very skeptic concerning existence lately...say solipsim?

    30 Dic 2008 Responder
  • SpHaeR

    ? This makes no sense. I had already replied to c4t2007 via shouts though.

    25 Dic 2008 Responder
  • max-ks

    A rationalist believes 2 + 2 = 4 because scientists wrote it in the arithmetics textbook. A sceptic reads said textbook beforehand. :)

    17 Dic 2008 Responder
  • c4t2007

    What's the difference between a skeptic and a rationalist? The skeptic doubts that 2 + 2 = 4?

    11 Nov 2008 Responder
  • 2cabs2toucan

    @phage - Acupuncture and chiropractic have not been demonstrated to work under the same strict testing required by mainstream medicine (ie repeatable double-blind). When you say “recognised by modern Western medicine" I guess you mean recommended by many doctors, who are on the whole just technicians and must rely on scientific tests to determine efficacy of a treatment.

    26 Oct 2008 Responder
  • -phage-

    Interesting that you condemn accupuncture and chiropractic which are recogniced nowdays by modern western medicine more and more.

    23 Oct 2008 Responder
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