Skipping should reduce the frequency of playing a certain track

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- 3 Feb 2012, 14:10
Skipping should reduce the frequency of playing a certain track

I've got 12,300 songs in my library, what is stuff for 25 days, but I hear the same 20 songs over and over again up to three times a day. I do not want ban them, so I skip and skip and skip... it is frustating, because last-fm destroys good songs that way.

So skipping should reduce the frequency!

[quote][b][user]2409[/user][/b] escribió: I've got 12,300 songs in my library, what is stuff for 25 days, but I hear the same 20 songs over and over again up to three times a day. I do not want ban them, so I skip and skip and skip... it is frustating, because last-fm destroys good songs that way. So skipping should reduce the frequency![/quote]

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- cino60 escribió...
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- 5 Feb 2012, 16:13
TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!

TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!
and i'm NOT hearing other songs!
and the "radio stations". u can only add THREE artists or tags?
they need to bring back the PLAYLIST ala iTunes.

[quote][b][user]cino60[/user][/b] escribió: TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!! and i'm NOT hearing other songs! and the "radio stations". u can only add THREE artists or tags? they need to bring back the PLAYLIST ala iTunes.[/quote]

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- dankine escribió...
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- 7 Feb 2012, 16:36
it does as far as I remember.

You do not have that many tracks unless you've only ever listened to each song in there once. keep listening, try tag radios (or ones that others have created).

@cino60 the tag radio IS the new playlist

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[quote][b][user]dankine[/user][/b] escribió: it does as far as I remember. You do not have that many tracks unless you've only ever listened to each song in there once. keep listening, try tag radios (or ones that others have created). @cino60 the tag radio IS the new playlist[/quote]

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- 10 Feb 2012, 15:39
dankine said:
it does as far as I remember...

I think 12,300 tracks should be enough :)
My favourite station is MIX, so if 12,300 are enought to hear the same song once in 25 days, it should be more seldom because the MIX RADIO provides also new tracks (as much as known tracks?).

so, why do I hear 5 times a day the same song? That destroys really good songs!

[quote][b][user]2409[/user][/b] escribió: [quote][b][user]dankine[/user][/b] said: it does as far as I remember...[/quote] I think 12,300 tracks should be enough :) My favourite station is MIX, so if 12,300 are enought to hear the same song once in 25 days, it should be more seldom because the MIX RADIO provides also new tracks (as much as known tracks?). so, why do I hear 5 times a day the same song? That destroys really good songs![/quote]

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- 10 Feb 2012, 16:45
+1

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[quote][b][user]rfruth11[/user][/b] escribió: +1[/quote]

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- dankine escribió...
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- 10 Feb 2012, 16:57
2409 said:
I think 12,300 tracks should be enough :)
My favourite station is MIX, so if 12,300 are enought to hear the same song once in 25 days, it should be more seldom because the MIX RADIO provides also new tracks (as much as known tracks?).

so, why do I hear 5 times a day the same song? That destroys really good songs!

As I said, you do not have 12,300 tracks on your account unless you've listened to every song in your library only once, which you haven't. Not to mention the fact your counter isn't over 12k anymore.

Yes the repeating isn't great, I don't get it very much at all however and I have a lot of tracks...

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[quote][b][user]dankine[/user][/b] escribió: [quote][b][user]2409[/user][/b] said: I think 12,300 tracks should be enough :) My favourite station is MIX, so if 12,300 are enought to hear the same song once in 25 days, it should be more seldom because the MIX RADIO provides also new tracks (as much as known tracks?). so, why do I hear 5 times a day the same song? That destroys really good songs![/quote] As I said, you do not have 12,300 tracks on your account unless you've listened to every song in your library only once, which you haven't. Not to mention the fact your counter isn't over 12k anymore. Yes the repeating isn't great, I don't get it very much at all however and I have a lot of tracks...[/quote]

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- headey escribió...
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- 13 Feb 2012, 13:42
+1dankine said:
it does as far as I remember.You're probably right but I get the feeling that maybe skipping only gets added to the algorithm calculation every few days or weeks.
It should be right at the top of the list when any updating or refreshing (or whatever the techie word is) is done imho.

It would be interesting to hear from staff, without giving away their trade secrets, a little bit about when and what effect skipping should have, and why they can't make the algorithm responsive more quickly. -There is probably a perfectly good reason.

2409 said:
I've got 12,300 songs in my library...Even a couple of thousand tracks could give 150hrs one at a time.
-though I don't quite get your calc of 12,300?
190 pages x 18 tracks a page ?? I'm probably missing something?

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@2409 -Did you ever get that track banned?
http://www.last.fm/forum/21713/_/753134/_/15330469
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'responsive more quickly' from 'instant'

edit 15Feb2012
Today I seem to be getting remarkably few repeats; (or the tag I'm playing is so bland that I'm not spotting them). ( ---15fh it's only 120 tracks... 8hrs+ & still finding new tracks )

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[quote][b][user]headey[/user][/b] escribió: +1[quote][b][user]dankine[/user][/b] said: it does as far as I remember.[/quote]You're probably right but I get the feeling that maybe skipping only gets added to the algorithm calculation every few days or weeks. It should be right at the top of the list when any updating or refreshing (or whatever the techie word is) is done imho. It would be interesting to hear from staff, without giving away their trade secrets, a little bit about when and what effect skipping should have, and why they can't make the algorithm responsive more quickly. -There is probably a perfectly good reason. [quote][b][user]2409[/user][/b] said: I've got 12,300 songs in my library...[/quote]Even a couple of thousand tracks could give 150hrs one at a time. -though I don't quite get your calc of 12,300? [url=http://www.last.fm/user/2409/library/recent?sortBy=date&sortOrder=desc&page=191]190 pages[/url] x 18 tracks a page ?? I'm probably missing something? edit @2409 -Did you ever get that track banned? http://www.last.fm/forum/21713/_/753134/_/15330469 edit 'responsive more quickly' from 'instant' edit 15Feb2012 Today I seem to be getting remarkably few repeats; (or the tag I'm playing is so bland that I'm not spotting them). ( ---15fh it's only 120 tracks... 8hrs+ & still finding new tracks )[/quote]
Editado por headey el 15 Feb 2012, 16:51

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- 13 Feb 2012, 14:15
dankine said:
As I said, you do not have 12,300 tracks on your account unless you've listened to every song in your library only once, which you haven't.

I'm sorry, you are right, I do not have 12,300 tracks in my library.

But OK, let me give a different example. I have 772 loved tracks.
Even if LastFM would play just these tracks, it would give stuff for one week (I listen maybe 6 hrs a day).
So there should not be any repitations until one week is over.

But I do not want to listen just to my favourites. I want to hear all the songs in my library. If I dislike one I kick it out of the library.

Is the algorhythm public?

[quote][b][user]2409[/user][/b] escribió: [quote][b][user]dankine[/user][/b] said: As I said, you do not have 12,300 tracks on your account unless you've listened to every song in your library only once, which you haven't. [/quote] I'm sorry, you are right, I do not have 12,300 tracks in my library. But OK, let me give a different example. I have 772 loved tracks. Even if LastFM would play just these tracks, it would give stuff for one week (I listen maybe 6 hrs a day). So there should not be any repitations until one week is over. But I do not want to listen just to my favourites. I want to hear all the songs in my library. If I dislike one I kick it out of the library. Is the algorhythm public?[/quote]

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- 13 Feb 2012, 14:16
headey said:Did you ever get that track banned?
http://www.last.fm/forum/21713/_/753134/_/15330469

No :(
This problem is still waiting to be solved.

[quote][b][user]2409[/user][/b] escribió: [quote][b][user]headey[/user][/b] said:Did you ever get that track banned? http://www.last.fm/forum/21713/_/753134/_/15330469[/quote] No :( This problem is still waiting to be solved.[/quote]

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Skipping should reduce the frequency of playing a certain track

Skipping should reduce the frequency of playing a certain track

TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!